Chapter 11
If you have read even a handful of near-death experience accounts, you have likely noticed a strange and consistent thread. Before the tunnel, before the light, before the meeting with loved ones or with Jesus, something else happens first. The person leaves their body. They float upward. They look down. And from somewhere above the bed or the operating table, they see themselves — the body that until a moment ago contained who they were — lying still while doctors and nurses scramble around it.
This is the out-of-body experience, or OBE for short. It is the most commonly reported feature of NDEs. Jeffrey Long's NDERF survey — the largest collection of self-reported NDE accounts ever assembled — found that 74.9 percent of NDErs answered yes to the question, "Did you experience a separation of your consciousness from your body?"1 John Burke's review of NDE features, drawing on Long's data, lists out-of-body separation as the very first core element, with a similar 75.4 percent rate.2 Three out of every four NDErs report it. Whatever else is going on in these experiences, this is where they begin.
I want to suggest something in this chapter that may at first sound surprising. The OBE is not just a curious feature of NDEs. It is the feature that connects everything else in this book together. It is the experiential bridge between the biblical picture of the soul I laid out in Chapter 5 and the empirical evidence of the last five chapters — the verified observations, the Pam Reynolds case, the blind NDErs, the children, and the shared-death witnesses. When NDErs say they "left the body," they are describing — from the inside — exactly what the Bible says happens at death and exactly what substance dualism (the view that humans are made of body and soul) predicts.
Thesis: The out-of-body experience is precisely what substance dualism predicts. The Bible repeatedly describes the soul as something that departs, returns, or is committed to God at death. NDErs report this same departure as a conscious, vivid, sometimes verifiable experience. The biblical picture and the empirical data are saying the same thing.
To make the case that OBEs fit the dualist picture, we first have to look carefully at what NDErs actually describe. The research literature gives us four consistent features.
Many NDErs describe a specific moment of leaving the body. It is not gradual fade-out. It is more like crossing a threshold. Some describe a popping sensation. Others describe a release, like a balloon let go of its string. Still others describe a tugging — a pull — followed by a sudden lifting upward.
Shaun Tabatt records a striking detail from his friend Randy Kay, who experienced a clinical death and an NDE: "during his near-death experience, he had a sensation of a tugging in his belly button region as his soul left his physical body."3 That image is hard to forget. Some readers may notice an echo here of an old, mysterious passage in Ecclesiastes: "before the silver cord is snapped" (Ecclesiastes 12:6). Many NDErs through the centuries — and a small number today — report seeing a luminous cord, thread, or tether connecting their floating self to their physical body. Most NDErs do not report a cord at all. They simply find themselves outside.
I do not think we should build a doctrine on the silver cord. The biblical context is poetic. But the consistency of the separation imagery across centuries of accounts is worth noting. Whatever the mechanism, NDErs describe leaving the body as a real event — not as an idea, not as a dream-image, but as something that happened to them at a specific moment.
Once separated, the NDEr is nearly always somewhere above the body. The most common report is a position near the ceiling, looking down at the medical scene below. Sometimes the vantage point is a specific corner of the room, near a particular piece of equipment, or at the foot of the bed. Sabom's Atlanta Study patient Darrell Pell described it plainly: as his heart was failing and the medical team was working frantically, "Darrell hovered near the ceiling" and saw the nurse Sandy in her pink uniform standing at his right side, and the cardiologist and two other men clustered around his right leg.4 When he came back into his body and looked around the room, every detail he had seen from above was confirmed.
Sabom calls this the "autoscopic" portion of the NDE — from a Greek-rooted word meaning, simply, "self-visualization."5 The NDEr sees themselves. From outside. With their eyes closed. Often with their heart stopped.
Here is where the OBE becomes a serious problem for the materialist picture of the human person. If the brain is the producer of consciousness — if the mind is just what the brain does — then a brain that is shutting down should produce a mind that is shutting down. A person whose heart has stopped, whose oxygen is failing, whose EEG is going flat, should report fragmented, fading, confused experience. They should report less, not more. Static, not signal.
That is the opposite of what NDErs describe. Long's NDERF data on this point is striking: 74.4 percent of NDErs say their consciousness during the experience was greater than during normal everyday life — "more consciousness and alertness than normal."6 Tabatt summarizes the same finding more colorfully: NDErs report that "their mind is faster and clearer than usual and their senses are turned all the way up, or as I like to jokingly say, they're dialed up to 11."7
NDErs report sharper vision than ever in life — colors that earthly eyes have no name for, fine detail that should be impossible at the distance described. They report enhanced hearing, faster thinking, and the ability to know things instantly without working them out. Some describe a 360-degree perception — being able to see in every direction at once, with no "behind." Others describe being able to move from the operating room to the waiting room and back in what feels like a single thought, observing conversations and details they could not possibly have witnessed any other way.
And it is not just felt clarity. The accuracy is high too. J. M. Holden's review of veridical OBE perceptions found that 92 percent of out-of-body observations were completely accurate, 6 percent contained some error, and only 1 percent were completely wrong.8 Whatever an NDEr is doing during the OBE, they are doing it well.
The phrase NDErs reach for over and over again is "realer than real." Earthly waking life, after the experience, often feels by comparison like a dream.
One last feature deserves mention. The OBE is almost always accompanied by a profound sense of peace. NDErs describe being free of pain, free of the weight and heaviness of the body, and strangely free of the panic of the medical crisis they are watching unfold below them. Many describe a reluctance to come back. Re-entering the body, when it happens, feels — in the words of one experiencer Tabatt records — like being "shoved" or "vacuumed" back in, like climbing back into a wet, heavy coat after a long walk on a warm day.9
This emotional quality matters because, again, it is the opposite of what we would expect from a brain in crisis. A panicking brain produces panic. A dying brain — on the materialist account — should produce fear, confusion, and the breakdown of higher-order processing. NDErs report the opposite: peace, clarity, and a sense of being more themselves than ever.
I argued at length in Chapter 5 that the Bible — from Genesis to Revelation — assumes a human being is a body-soul composite, and that at death these two come apart. I won't redo that exegesis here. But it is worth noticing how cleanly the OBE phenomenology fits the language Scripture itself uses.
When Rachel died giving birth to Benjamin, the text says her nephesh (נֶפֶשׁ — Hebrew for "soul" or "life") was "departing" (Genesis 35:18). When Elijah prayed over the widow's dead son, he asked God to let the boy's nephesh "come into him again," and the text says it did, and the boy revived (1 Kings 17:21–22). When Jesus died on the cross, He cried out, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit" (Luke 23:46), using the Greek word pneuma (πνεῦμα — "spirit" or "breath"). When Stephen was being stoned, he prayed, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit" (Acts 7:59), again using pneuma. And Paul, longing for death not as defeat but as gain, said his desire was "to depart (analysai, ἀναλῦσαι — to break camp, to set sail) and be with Christ, for that is far better" (Philippians 1:23).10
These are not abstract metaphors. They are the consistent vocabulary the biblical writers reach for to describe what happens at death. A part of the person — the nephesh, the pneuma — leaves, departs, returns, is committed, sets sail. Something goes somewhere.
The biblical pattern: The Old Testament describes the soul as departing at death and returning at resurrection. The New Testament describes the spirit as being committed, received, or making a journey to be with Christ. Every word in this vocabulary presupposes that the inner person is something distinct from the body and capable of going somewhere else. This is exactly what NDErs say happens to them — except they come back to tell us about it.
If physicalism (the view that the human person is identical to, or wholly constituted by, the physical body) were true, all of this language would be nonsense. There would be nothing to depart. There would be nothing to receive. "Setting sail" would mean only "ceasing to exist." But the biblical writers do not talk that way, and NDErs do not experience that way. The OBE is, quite literally, what the biblical separation language describes — felt from the inside.
One of the strongest pieces of evidence for substance dualism in the OBE phenomenology is the enhanced clarity I described above. Why should consciousness become sharper when the brain becomes weaker?
The dualist answer is that the brain is not the producer of consciousness but the instrument through which consciousness expresses itself in the physical world. Think of an instrument — a violin, a pipe organ, a microphone. Damage the instrument and the music gets distorted. The musician is fine; the equipment is failing. John Cooper, in his careful treatment of NDEs in Body, Soul, and Life Everlasting, makes essentially this case. He recognizes that veridical out-of-body experiences cannot be explained "in terms of the normal mind-brain relation, even if the brain is operating under mental stress."11 And while he is appropriately cautious — noting that "responsible scholars are persuaded differently about what the evidence indicates" — he concludes that the OBE evidence "tends to support dualism" and "certainly does not conflict with a dualistic anthropology."12
If the dualist picture is right, then during embodied life, the soul "speaks through" the brain in something like the way a musician speaks through a violin. The brain shapes, channels, and constrains how the soul interacts with the world. When the brain is damaged or shutting down, the soul's earthly expression is impaired — not because the soul is impaired, but because the instrument is failing. And when the soul separates from the brain altogether — as happens in an OBE — the soul perceives directly, without the limitations of the physical organs.
Notice how well this explains the 360-degree perception some NDErs report. In ordinary embodied life, our visual field is forward-facing, narrow, and bounded by the physical structure of two eyes pointed in the same direction. In the OBE, that limitation is gone. Perception becomes panoramic, omnidirectional, more like what we might expect for a being that is no longer perceiving through eyes. Sabom puts the point well: "How the soul can 'see,' a physical process requiring the optical mechanisms of the eye, from a vantage point distant from the body is not understood. All we can say at this point is that it seems that the soul is not dependent on the body to accomplish functions we normally think of as requiring physical organs and physiological processes."13
Physicalists have not ignored OBEs. They have offered two main alternative explanations. Both deserve a fair hearing, and both, I think, fall short.
The most commonly cited "scientific" explanation for OBEs traces back to the work of Swiss neurologist Olaf Blanke. In a famous 2002 case (and follow-up studies), Blanke and his colleagues reported that direct electrical stimulation of the right temporal-parietal junction — a region of the brain involved in body-schema processing — produced OBE-like sensations in epileptic patients. The patient feels, briefly, as though she is observing her body from a different position. Physicalists have used this finding to argue that all OBEs are simply brain artifacts, generated by misfiring neurons in the temporal-parietal junction.
The argument has two serious problems. The first is that Blanke's induced experiences are nothing like NDE OBEs. They are brief, fragmentary, disorienting, and confused. Patients report odd bodily sensations — sometimes feeling that a limb has shifted, sometimes feeling vaguely "above" themselves — but they do not report the coherent, vivid, narrative experiences NDErs describe. There is no peace. There is no panoramic perception. There is no extended observation of the surrounding scene with sustained attention. The experiences are seconds long and quickly forgotten. NDE OBEs are minutes-long, vividly remembered for decades, and frequently described as the most real moments of the person's life.
The second and more decisive problem is that Blanke's stimulation has never produced veridical information. No epileptic patient under TPJ stimulation has accurately reported the contents of an unseen room. None has identified objects placed deliberately in their visual blind spot. None has described surgical instruments they had no way to see, or conversations from other floors of the hospital. Blanke's induced sensation is a feeling of disorientation. The OBEs in this book — the Maria-shoe case, the Pam Reynolds case, the AWARE study findings, the cases I summarized in Chapter 6 — involve specific, accurate, verifiable observation of the external world.14 A vague feeling of being slightly displaced cannot explain the gathering of accurate facts the patient could not have known. The two phenomena are not on the same scale. As a friend of mine once put it, "Pointing to TPJ stimulation to explain veridical NDEs is like pointing to a fizzing AA battery to explain a thunderstorm."
A second physicalist response is that the brain, under extreme stress, simply generates a convincing illusion of being out of the body — assembling the visual scene from prior memory, expectation, and fragments of residual sensory input. The most prominent version of this view comes from psychologist Susan Blackmore, who argued that during an NDE, "the normal model of reality breaks down and the system tries to get back to normal by building a new model from memory and imagination. If this model is from a bird's-eye view, then an out-of-body experience takes place."15
This is a clever proposal, and it is not crazy. Brains do reconstruct experiences. We know they do. Memory is imperfect, and dreams can feel real. But the proposal runs into a wall when it meets the actual data.
Sabom himself addressed Blackmore's prediction directly. Blackmore reasoned that if OBEs are reconstructed from ordinary memory and imagination, then NDErs who report OBEs should be people whose ordinary dreams and memories already have a "bird's-eye view" quality. Sabom tested this with 40 NDErs, asking whether they typically dreamed as participants (in-body, "field memory") or as observers (out-of-body, "observer memory"). The result: 73 percent of NDErs reported dreaming as participants, just like normal people. There was no difference between the dreaming patterns of NDErs who had experienced an autoscopic OBE and those who had not.16 Blackmore's prediction failed.
More importantly, the brain-illusion theory cannot account for veridical content. Even if the brain were somehow generating a convincing top-down view of the operating room from prior memory, where does the information come from about the dental object placed deliberately above the patient's eye line, the shoe on the third-floor ledge, the surgical instrument the patient had never seen, the conversation in the room next door? An illusion can feel like anything. It cannot deliver new, accurate, otherwise-unknown facts about the external world. As Long puts it, the realism of OBE perceptions — the consistency with which "out-of-body observations are almost always confirmed as accurate, even if the observations included events very far from the physical body" — "alone rules out the possibility that NDEs are related to any known brain functioning or sensory awareness."17
The deciding question: Brain-generated illusions can feel real, but they cannot generate new accurate information about events the brain has no access to. Veridical OBEs do exactly that. This is why the OBE evidence cannot be dismissed as "the brain making things up." The brain has nothing to make this up from.
So where does this leave us? The OBE is the most common feature of NDEs, reported by roughly three out of four experiencers. It involves a felt separation from the body, a stable vantage point above the body, perception that is enhanced rather than diminished, and a profound peace. In a meaningful percentage of cases, it includes verifiable observations the patient could not have made in any normal way — including, sometimes, observations gathered when the brain was not functioning at all, as we saw in the Pam Reynolds case in Chapter 7 and the wider veridical evidence in Chapter 6.
This pattern is exactly what the biblical anthropology I laid out in Chapter 5 would lead us to expect. The Bible describes the soul as something that departs, returns, is committed to God, and travels to be with Christ. NDErs report this departure as a vivid, conscious, sometimes verifiable event. The biblical writers and the NDE researchers, working from utterly different starting points, are pointing at the same thing.
It is also exactly what substance dualism predicts and what physicalism cannot easily explain. If consciousness is just what the brain does, the OBE should not happen at all — and certainly should not produce sharper, more accurate perception than ordinary embodied life. If consciousness is what a soul does, using the brain as an instrument, then the OBE is not a paradox. It is what we would expect when the soul, even briefly, perceives without the instrument.
I want to be honest about the limits of this argument. The OBE evidence does not prove substance dualism with mathematical certainty. Cooper is right to be cautious; so is Sabom. There are still mysteries here. We do not know the full mechanism of how the soul "sees" without eyes, or how it returns to the body, or what it would be like to make that journey one last time without coming back. But the OBE phenomenology, taken together with the veridical evidence, gives us strong, converging reasons to believe that the soul is real and that it can — at least briefly — function apart from the body. That is a major problem for physicalism. It is, conversely, a quiet vindication of what the Bible has been saying for thousands of years.
For the next several chapters, we will follow NDErs further. After they leave the body, what do they see? Whom do they meet? In Chapter 12, we turn to the being of light. In Chapter 13, we'll consider the surprising prominence of Jesus. But before any of that, we have to start where NDErs themselves start: with the moment they look down and realize, with a calm that surprises them, that the body on the table is theirs — and that they are no longer in it.
1 Jeffrey Long, God and the Afterlife: The Groundbreaking New Evidence for God and Near-Death Experience (New York: HarperOne, 2016), 13. ↩
2 John Burke, Imagine Heaven: Near-Death Experiences, God's Promises, and the Exhilarating Future That Awaits You (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books, 2015), chap. 4, "Common Elements of NDEs." ↩
3 Shaun Tabatt, The NDE Conspiracy (Shippensburg, PA: Destiny Image, 2025), chap. 3, "What Is This NDE Stuff All About Anyway?" ↩
4 Michael Sabom, Light and Death: One Doctor's Fascinating Account of Near-Death Experiences (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 1998), chap. 2, "Darrell: A Medical and Spiritual Change of Heart." ↩
5 Sabom, Light and Death, chap. 10, "Scientific Explanations: Nailing Jell-O to the Wall." ↩
6 Long, God and the Afterlife, 13. ↩
7 Tabatt, NDE Conspiracy, chap. 3, "What Is This NDE Stuff All About Anyway?" ↩
8 J. M. Holden, "Veridical Perception in Near-Death Experiences," in The Handbook of Near-Death Experiences: Thirty Years of Investigation, ed. Janice Miner Holden, Bruce Greyson, and Debbie James (Santa Barbara, CA: Praeger, 2009), 185–211, summarized in Burke, Imagine Heaven, chap. 4, "Common Elements of NDEs." ↩
9 Tabatt, NDE Conspiracy, chap. 3, "What Is This NDE Stuff All About Anyway?" (citing Heidi Barr's account of "hoovering" back into the body). ↩
10 The full biblical and exegetical case for these passages — including detailed treatments of Genesis 35:18, 1 Kings 17:21–22, Ecclesiastes 12:7, Matthew 10:28, and Philippians 1:21–23 — is developed in Chapter 5. The argument here only leans on what was established there. See also John W. Cooper, Body, Soul, and Life Everlasting: Biblical Anthropology and the Monism-Dualism Debate (Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans, 2000), 60–62, 109–116. ↩
11 Cooper, Body, Soul, and Life Everlasting, 213. ↩
12 Cooper, Body, Soul, and Life Everlasting, 215. The "instrument" framing is my own development of Cooper's broader case for holistic dualism; for related discussion see Joshua R. Farris, An Introduction to Theological Anthropology: Humans, Both Creaturely and Divine (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Academic, 2020), 145–152. ↩
13 Sabom, Light and Death, chap. 11, "Conclusions: The Bible and the Near-Death Experience." ↩
14 The Pam Reynolds case is treated in detail in Chapter 7; the Maria-shoe case (Kimberly Clark Sharp), the AWARE-study denture case (Pim van Lommel), and the Sabom Atlanta Study cases are treated in Chapter 6. The veridical content of these cases — including objects, conversations, and surgical procedures the patient could not have observed by ordinary sensory means — is what gives the OBE evidence its evidential weight against any "brain-illusion" account. ↩
15 Susan Blackmore, as quoted and discussed in Sabom, Light and Death, chap. 10, "Scientific Explanations: Nailing Jell-O to the Wall." ↩
16 Sabom, Light and Death, chap. 10, "Scientific Explanations: Nailing Jell-O to the Wall." Sabom credits William Serdahely with the participant/observer memory framework used to test Blackmore's prediction. ↩
17 Long, God and the Afterlife, chap. 9, "Reasons to Consider NDEs Valid." See also J. Steve Miller, Is Christianity Compatible with Deathbed and Near-Death Experiences? The Surprising Presence of Jesus, Scarcity of Anti-Christian Elements, and Compatibility with Historic Christian Teachings (Acworth, GA: Wisdom Creek Press, 2023), chap. 1, "Studying NDEs Reported on the NDERF Website," for further discussion of OBE accuracy in the NDERF dataset. ↩
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