Chapter 9
If you want to know whether something is real, sometimes the most useful witness in the room is a small child. Children have not yet learned to smooth out the rough edges of what they saw. They have not yet learned which questions are off-limits or which answers will make grown-ups uncomfortable. They simply tell you what happened. And when a four-year-old comes back from the brink of death and tells you, with no fear and no flinching, that he sat in the lap of Jesus, that the angels sang to him, and that he met a sister he never knew his mother had lost — well, the adults are going to have to figure out what to do with that.
This chapter is about young children — many of them between ages three and seven — who came close to death, or who lay dying, and who reported the very same things adult NDErs report. They left their bodies. They saw a brilliant light. They met deceased relatives. They stood on the edge of a beautiful place and were told to go back. The argument I want to make in this chapter is straightforward: children's NDEs are not just one more category of evidence among many. They are uniquely valuable. They cut clean through the most common skeptical objection to adult NDEs in a way no adult case quite can.
That objection is called the "expectation hypothesis," and it goes like this: adult NDErs have been steeped for decades in cultural ideas about death and the afterlife — Hollywood movies, popular books like Heaven Is for Real, vague religious teaching, hospice pamphlets, NDE documentaries. Of course they "experience" tunnels, light, and deceased relatives — that is what they have been conditioned to expect. Their NDEs, the skeptic says, simply mirror the cultural script in their heads. As we will see, this objection has serious problems even with adult cases. But with very young children, the objection collapses entirely. They do not have the cultural script. And yet they keep reporting the same things.
J. Steve Miller, whose careful evidential work undergirds much of this book, makes a simple but important observation about children. They have less refined social filters than adults. They tend to "tell it like it is," even when telling it like it is gets them strange looks.1 Adults learn to interpret experiences through layers of theology, social etiquette, and self-protective caution. Young children mostly skip those layers. What you get from them is closer to the raw report. From an evidential standpoint, that is gold.
It is also worth thinking about what kind of "expectations" a small child actually has about death. Their cultural images are shaped by cartoons, fairy tales, and Halloween decorations: ghosts in white sheets, skeletons, spooky graveyards, clouds with harps, perhaps a vague notion of pearly gates guarded by St. Peter. None of these images appear in children's NDEs. Children do not report wandering through cartoon graveyards. They do not see cloud-people strumming harps. They do not encounter an old white-bearded gatekeeper with a clipboard. Instead, they describe leaving their bodies, traveling through a passage, encountering an indescribable light, meeting people who love them, and being escorted back. In other words, they describe the same core NDE that adults across the world describe — and which their cartoons did not prepare them for.
One small but striking detail makes the point. Several researchers, going back to William Barrett in the 1920s, have found that dying children report seeing angels — but they report angels without wings. Angela Ethier, in her doctoral interviews with parents, recounts a preschooler who quizzed her mother about the angels in the room. The mother, trying to play along, described angels with big wings. The little girl gently corrected her: angels do not have wings. The child then went on to describe their actual appearance in vivid detail.2 If the child had been imagining her angels, she would have given them wings — that is exactly the picture every storybook and every Christmas pageant had handed her. Instead she reported what she actually saw, even when it contradicted everything she had been shown.
Modern research on children's NDEs began with a single case that landed in the lap of a young pediatrician in Seattle. Seven-year-old Katie was found floating face down in a swimming pool. Dr. Melvin Morse resuscitated her in the emergency room, but she remained in a coma for three days before, astonishingly, making a full recovery. When Morse asked her gently what had happened in the pool, intending only to find out how she had come to drown, Katie began describing things that should have been impossible.3
She described meeting a tall, kind being with golden hair whom she called Elizabeth. Elizabeth led her through a tunnel, where she met her late grandfather and two boys named Mark and Andy, "until it was time to go back." Eventually Elizabeth introduced her to "the Heavenly Father" and to Jesus, who asked if she wanted to see her mother. When she said yes, she found herself awake. The intensive care nurses told Morse later that her first words on regaining consciousness had been, "Where are Mark and Andy?"4
That alone would have been remarkable. What made it more remarkable was that Katie also described scenes from her own home during the days she lay comatose in the hospital. She told her parents what clothes her brothers had been wearing, what her mother had been cooking (roast chicken and rice), and what toy her brothers were playing with — a GI Joe in a jeep. Her parents confirmed every detail.5 A seven-year-old who had been clinically unresponsive in another building had somehow seen her family from above, accurately, in real time.
Morse, who began as a skeptic, was so unsettled that he published Katie's case in the American Journal of Diseases of Children and then assembled a research team for a systematic study at Seattle Children's Hospital. The Seattle study compared two carefully matched groups of seriously ill children. One group had suffered cardiac arrest — they had genuinely come close to death. The other group had been just as sick, just as medicated, and just as frightened, but had not stopped breathing and had not lost a heartbeat. The result was decisive. Children in the cardiac-arrest group reported NDEs. The control children — equally medicated, equally stressed, equally afraid — did not.6
The Seattle Comparison Study in One Sentence. If NDEs were caused by drugs, fear, or medical stress, the control children should have had them too. They did not. The variable that separated the two groups was not medication or panic — it was nearness to death. That single design choice rules out a whole shelf of naturalistic explanations for what these children experienced.
Pim van Lommel, the Dutch cardiologist who led the landmark Lancet study on adult cardiac arrest patients, has made the same point about children. He notes that if children's NDEs were merely wishful thinking, they should be reporting their living family members — Mom, Dad, the family dog. Instead, they typically encounter deceased relatives, sometimes including pets that have died.7 This pattern is everything one would expect if the experience is real and nothing one would expect if it is a comforting fantasy.
Some of the most evidentially powerful childhood reports come not from NDEs in the strict sense but from deathbed experiences (DBEs), where the child does not return. Diane Komp, a longtime professor of pediatrics at Yale and a pediatric oncologist, watched many children die and described herself before those years as somewhere between agnostic and atheist. She said that if she ever came to believe in anything beyond the grave, it would have to be because of "reliable witnesses without culturally determined expectations about death." She did not yet realize her witnesses would be her own dying patients.8
One of those witnesses was a seven-year-old named Hannah, who was dying of leukemia. In the last moments of her life, Hannah suddenly mustered the strength to sit up in her hospital bed. She turned to her mother with shining eyes and asked if her mother could see the angels and hear their singing — singing she described as more beautiful than anything she had ever heard. Then she lay back on the pillow and died. Her parents told Komp afterward that they felt they had been given the most precious gift in the world.9 Komp, the Yale physician who had spent her career insisting on hard evidence, found that her quietly accumulating cases of dying children had moved her, over time, into a sturdy Christian faith.
Now we come to what may be the strongest evidential category in the children's literature: cases where a child meets a deceased relative the child did not know had ever existed. A child cannot hallucinate a grandfather they have never seen, in clothing from a decade they were never alive in, and then accurately pick him out of a photo album.
Consider four-year-old Colton Burpo, whose family lived right here in Nebraska. After a near-fatal medical crisis, Colton casually told his father, a pastor, that he had met "Pop" in heaven. "Pop" was Todd's grandfather, who had died nearly thirty years before Colton was born. Todd — startled — pulled out a recent photo of Pop as an old man with white hair and glasses. Colton shook his head. "Nobody's old in heaven, and nobody wears glasses." Todd's mother sent a photo of Pop in his late twenties. Colton's eyes lit up. "How did you get a picture of Pop?"10
Some weeks later, Colton dropped another bombshell. He told his mother, Sonja, that he had two sisters, not one. Sonja gently corrected him; he had only one sister, Cassie. Colton insisted. "You had a baby die in your tummy, didn't you?" His parents had never told him about Sonja's miscarriage. Colton said his sister had hugged him in heaven and that she did not have a name "because you guys didn't name her." Sonja and Todd had never even known the baby's gender.11 Now, popular books like Heaven Is for Real need to be read with care, and not every detail of every popular account belongs in a scholarly argument. But the evidential pattern — children identifying deceased family members they could not have known about — repeats across the research literature.
Pim van Lommel reports a striking case from his own files. A Dutch woman recalled that as a five-year-old she had fallen into a coma from meningitis and "died." She found herself in a peaceful place, where she encountered a girl about ten years old. The older girl embraced her and said, "I'm your sister. I was named after your grandmother. Our parents called me Rietje for short." The little girl woke up and excitedly drew a picture of her sister for her parents. They were so shocked they fled the room. When they returned, they confirmed that they had once had a daughter named Rietje who had died of poisoning before any of their other children were born — and they had decided not to tell their other kids until they were old enough.12
Komp tells of six-year-old Mary Beth, who entered the hospital with cancer just before Christmas. Her parents had asked the staff not to discuss her worsening condition in front of her. One day, Mary Beth told her mother, with calm acceptance, about a "dream" in which Jesus came to her along with one of her grandfathers — a grandfather who had died before she was born and whom she had never met. Together they told her gently that she would soon be with them, and not to be afraid. She died on Christmas Eve, at peace.13
The pattern is what matters. Across separate researchers, separate countries, and separate decades, young children keep encountering deceased family members they had never been told about and could not have invented. This is not the noise of a dying brain. This is the signal.
Now let us steel-man the skeptic. The most sophisticated naturalistic critic of NDEs does not say experiencers are lying. They argue, instead, that the experience is real to the experiencer but is constructed unconsciously out of the experiencer's prior cultural and religious assumptions about death. On this view, an NDE is essentially a dream the dying brain stitches together from cultural raw material. It is a respectable hypothesis, and it deserves a respectful response.
The trouble is that children's NDEs systematically refuse to fit this hypothesis. Three problems stand out.
First, very young children typically have no coherent expectations about death at all. As Komp pointed out, parents and physicians often deliberately conceal a dying child's prognosis from the child. The child does not yet know they are dying. So whatever expectations they bring to the bed, they are not expectations of the imminent afterlife.14 When such children begin describing visits with deceased grandparents and unbelievably beautiful gardens, expectation cannot be doing the work.
Second, where children do have expectations about death, those expectations tend to be fearful. Death is the monster under the bed, the thing in the dark closet, the loss of mommy and daddy. The expected emotional response is dread. Children's NDEs and DBEs, however, are overwhelmingly peaceful, joyful, and full of light. The content does not mirror the child's expectations — it contradicts them. Researcher Angela Ethier reports children who, after such experiences, became excited about their impending death and tried to comfort their parents about it. One little girl, after her vision, asked her father, "Can I go? Can I go now?"15 That is not the script a frightened child would write.
Third, the content of children's NDEs lines up with the content of adult NDEs across cultures. Children, who do not read NDE books, report tunnels, light, deceased relatives, heavenly landscapes, and a sense of overwhelming love — exactly what adults in radically different cultures report. The simplest explanation for that convergence is not that children are absorbing adult cultural narratives. The simplest explanation is that children and adults are seeing the same reality.16
Morse himself put the point with disarming directness. He noted that medical school taught him to look for the simplest explanation; after looking at all the alternatives, he came to think the simplest explanation for these children's experiences is that they really were glimpsing the world beyond.17 Coming from a pediatrician who began as a skeptic, that is a striking conclusion.
One more piece of the evidential picture is worth examining: what happens to these children long after the experience? If a child's NDE were merely a quirky neurochemical event in the dying brain, we would expect the experience to fade quickly into the background of an ordinary childhood. That is not what we find.
Morse and his colleagues followed children who had had NDEs into adolescence and beyond. The pattern was consistent: these children showed less fear of death than their peers, increased empathy, sharper spiritual sensitivity, and a kind of quiet maturity unusual for their ages. Some described an unshakable sense of purpose; others described a deep sense of being personally loved by God.18 These aftereffects parallel exactly what researchers like Kenneth Ring and Bruce Greyson document in adult NDErs (treated more fully in later chapters).19
This matters evidentially because purely neurochemical events do not typically produce coherent, decades-long character transformations. A six-year-old does not normally come out of a brief medical event with a permanent loss of her fear of death. But these children do.
I want to be honest about the difficulties involved in studying children's NDEs. They are real, and any responsible researcher acknowledges them. Young children have limited vocabulary; they sometimes blur the categories of dream, fantasy, and waking experience; and they can be influenced by leading questions from anxious or eager adults. Sabom and other careful researchers warn that an investigator who already wants to hear about Jesus or angels can subtly steer a child toward the desired answer.20
These cautions are right, and good researchers take them seriously. But they do not undermine the core findings, for one straightforward reason: the most striking children's cases involve specific, falsifiable, verified detail that adult prompting cannot generate. A leading question cannot give a four-year-old the right photograph of a great-grandfather he has never seen. A nudging interviewer cannot put a deceased sister's nickname into a five-year-old's mouth. Confirmation by mothers, photographs, family records, and ICU nurses functions as a check that no leading question can substitute for. Where the evidential weight rests is on these verifications, not on the impressionistic mood of the report.
Allow me a brief theological reflection before closing. The children's NDE literature lands strangely well alongside Jesus' own attitude toward children in the Gospels. When the disciples tried to keep little ones away from him, Jesus rebuked them: "Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 19:14, ESV). The Greek word here for "little children," paidia (παιδία), refers to small ones — toddlers and young children.
An odd but striking convergence. Jesus repeatedly stressed that small children matter to him, that the kingdom of God belongs to such as them, and that he was deeply protective of them (Matthew 18:10; 19:13–15). When small children today come back from the threshold of death and report that a kind, luminous figure they identify as Jesus held them, sang to them, and told them they would be all right — the report is unexpected from a clinical standpoint but utterly expected from a biblical one. The Jesus of the Gospels would do exactly this.
I am not arguing that every detail of every child's NDE is divine revelation; I am not arguing that Heaven Is for Real should be read as a chapter of Scripture. The careful framework of discernment I will develop in Part V (Chapters 25–29) applies to children's experiences as well as to adults'. What I am arguing is that the broad pattern — small children reporting verifiable contact with deceased relatives, peaceful encounters with a being of overwhelming love, and lasting positive aftereffects — is exactly what we would expect if the biblical worldview is true and exactly what we would not expect on a strict materialist worldview.
Children's NDEs are the part of the evidence base where the skeptic's best objection runs out of room to maneuver. The expectation hypothesis works only if the experiencer comes equipped with the cultural script. Three- and four-year-olds do not come equipped. They have storybook angels with wings; they meet wingless ones. They have Hollywood ghosts; they meet warm, embodied relatives at the prime of life. They have no theology of the afterlife; they describe it accurately enough to convince Yale-trained pediatric oncologists. And the deepest evidential strand — children meeting and identifying deceased family members they had never been told about — cannot be explained by expectation, hallucination, or cultural conditioning.
John Cooper, in his classic defense of holistic dualism, notes that NDEs do not by themselves prove dualism, but the evidence "certainly seems to support it."21 I think the children's data, taken on its own, pushes us further down that road than the adult data alone. When a five-year-old whose brain shows almost no activity nonetheless meets a sister no one has ever told her about, our materialist categories begin to crack. Something — someone — is doing the perceiving, and it is not just the dying brain.
In the next chapter we will turn to a related and even stranger category of evidence: shared-death experiences, where the dying person's experience is somehow witnessed by perfectly healthy people standing at the bedside. If children's NDEs make the dying-brain hypothesis wobble, shared-death experiences may be the thing that finally tips it over.
1 J. Steve Miller, Deathbed Experiences as Evidence for the Afterlife, Volume 1: A Groundbreaking, Scientific Apologetic, Evaluating Death-Related Visions, Terminal Lucidity and After Death Communications (Acworth, GA: Wisdom Creek Press, 2022), Line of Evidence #11, "If the Content of Deathbed Experiences Can Be Attributed Solely to People's Expectations of Heaven, Then Why Do Children — Who Neither Know That They Are Dying nor Have a Mature Theology of the Afterlife — Report Typical DBEs?" ↩
2 Miller, Deathbed Experiences (Vol. 1), Line of Evidence #11, citing Angela M. Ethier's interview material on preschool-aged reports of wingless angels. ↩
3 Melvin Morse with Paul Perry, Closer to the Light: Learning from the Near-Death Experiences of Children (New York: Villard, 1990), 18–21. ↩
4 John Burke, Imagine Heaven: Near-Death Experiences, God's Promises, and the Exhilarating Future That Awaits You (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books, 2015), chap. 13, "The Highlight of Heaven." ↩
5 Miller, Deathbed Experiences (Vol. 1), Line of Evidence #11, "Children's Reports of Near-Death Experiences Reinforce DBEs"; see also Morse, Closer to the Light, 3–11. ↩
6 Morse, Closer to the Light, 31–46; cf. Pim van Lommel, Consciousness Beyond Life: The Science of the Near-Death Experience (New York: HarperOne, 2010), 71–74. ↩
7 Van Lommel, Consciousness Beyond Life, 74; cited and discussed in Burke, Imagine Heaven, chap. 7, "The Family You Never Knew." ↩
8 Diane M. Komp, A Window to Heaven: When Children See Life in Death (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 1992), discussed in Miller, Deathbed Experiences (Vol. 1), Line of Evidence #11, "Angels and Singing." ↩
9 Miller, Deathbed Experiences (Vol. 1), Line of Evidence #11, "Angels and Singing"; original case in Komp, A Window to Heaven, 28. ↩
10 Burke, Imagine Heaven, chap. 7, "The Family You Never Knew." ↩
11 Burke, Imagine Heaven, chap. 7, "The Family You Never Knew." ↩
12 Van Lommel, Consciousness Beyond Life, 71–72. ↩
13 Miller, Deathbed Experiences (Vol. 1), Line of Evidence #10, on cases involving relatives unknown to the dying child, citing Komp, A Window to Heaven, 35–36. ↩
14 Miller, Deathbed Experiences (Vol. 1), Line of Evidence #11, "Since Children Are Not Typically Told They Are Dying." ↩
15 Angela M. Ethier, "Exploring Parents' Memories of Their Child's Death Related Sensory Experiences as a Dimension of Grieving" (D.S.N. diss., University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston School of Nursing, 2007), 56, discussed in Miller, Deathbed Experiences (Vol. 1), Line of Evidence #11. ↩
16 J. Steve Miller, Is Christianity Compatible with Deathbed and Near-Death Experiences? The Surprising Presence of Jesus, Scarcity of Anti-Christian Elements, and Compatibility with Historic Christian Teachings (Acworth, GA: Wisdom Creek Press, 2023), chap. 1, "What Is the Best Database for Studying Deathbed and Near-Death Experiences?" ↩
17 Morse, in Raymond Moody, The Light Beyond (New York: Bantam, 1988), 108, quoted in Miller, Deathbed Experiences (Vol. 1), Line of Evidence #11. ↩
18 Melvin Morse and Paul Perry, Transformed by the Light: The Powerful Effect of Near-Death Experiences on People's Lives (New York: Villard, 1992), chaps. 1–4. ↩
19 Bruce Greyson, After: A Doctor Explores What Near-Death Experiences Reveal about Life and Beyond (New York: St. Martin's Essentials, 2021), chaps. 11–13; Michael Sabom, Light and Death: One Doctor's Fascinating Account of Near-Death Experiences (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 1998), chap. 1, "The Atlanta Study: A Second Look at the Near-Death Experience." ↩
20 Sabom, Light and Death, chap. 1, "The Atlanta Study: A Second Look at the Near-Death Experience"; Shaun Tabatt, The NDE Conspiracy (Shippensburg, PA: Destiny Image, 2025), chap. 8, "Can We Trust Firsthand Accounts of NDEs and Related Experiences?" ↩
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