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NDERF 1943 Lorie NDE 4033
https://nderf.org/Experiences/1lorie_nde.html
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2009
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After giving birth to her second child in May 2008, Lorie hemorrhaged while waiting to deliver the placenta. She was violently shaking from shock, blood loss, and medication to stop the bleeding. She began drifting into sleep and awoke in a different place. Still lying on a bed, everything was white with no visible walls or roof - just endless white. Two ladies in white stood on either side of her bed, and a man of Asian origin with plaited hair and beard stood at the foot, chanting something that seemed to be counting down her time to choose between life and death.
Initially, she felt peaceful, warm, and didn't want to return. But remembering her newborn and eldest daughter, she fought to go back. She tried her hardest and returned to find herself still shaking violently with her doctor and five midwives running around, her newborn screaming in her father's arms. She went back to the other side again, this time feeling horrible and desperate to return to care for her children. She kept telling herself she didn't want to die. When she came back, she told her partner to remember this moment. She went to the other side a third time, but more briefly, hearing both the chanting man and the midwives calling her name in an echo. She lost 13,000 milliliters of blood (actually 1,300ml - likely a transcription error). Her partner confirmed she stopped shaking several times, which she interprets as when she was on the other side. Her blood pressure would plummet when she stopped shaking and return to normal when she came back. The experience left her unafraid of dying but not ready to die, wanting to see her children grow up. --- Biblical Summary --- Biblical elements: The white environment and beings dressed in white align with biblical descriptions of heaven and angels. The choice between life and death reflects divine sovereignty over human life. Her desperate prayer-like determination to return for her children shows maternal love that reflects God's design for family bonds. The peace initially felt aligns with biblical descriptions of God's presence. Unbiblical elements: The chanting Asian man with plaited hair and beard doesn't align with typical biblical descriptions of angels or divine messengers. The countdown aspect suggests a mechanical rather than personal divine interaction.
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Life-threatening hemorrhage after childbirth with significant blood loss
Multiple transitions between states observed by partner, blood pressure changes correlated with experiences
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